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Wednesday, July 23, 2008

South Sudan's Kiir joins calls to delay ICC warrant

Why is it some people want to protect criminals all the time ? I wonder how many you have to kill before it is O.K. to be arrested and tried for your Crimes?

KAMPALA (Reuters) - The International Criminal Court should delay the indictment of Sudan's president for war crimes in Darfur to allow time to implement a peace deal with former southern rebels, south Sudan's president has said.

In his first comments on the charges of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity facing President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, his south Sudanese counterpart Salva Kiir urged The Hague-based court to defer its decision.

The ICC accuses Bashir of orchestrating a genocide that has killed 35,000 people outright, at least another 100,000 through slow death, and forced 2.5 million from their homes.

"There is no need rushing to take the Sudanese president to the ICC," Kiir, whose is also number two in the Sudanese government, told reporters late on Tuesday during a trip to Uganda.

"The announcement has been made, but we should have time to consult with the rest of Africa and the world," he said.

"The Sudanese government should be allowed to implement the accord signed with the South Sudan government and to negotiate with the fighting forces in Darfur."

Kiir was echoing calls by other African leaders and the peace and security council of the African Union, which asked the United Nations on Monday to delay the indictment for a year.

Bashir was due to travel to Darfur on Wednesday for a two-day visit, his first trip to the region since the ICC move.

The Arab League said on Tuesday that Sudan had agreed to try anyone it suspected of crimes in Darfur in Sudanese courts and would let observers from the United Nations, African Union and Arab League follow the proceedings.

The crisis over Bashir's possible indictment has raised fears for the fragile peace process in Africa's biggest state.

Khartoum and oil-producing southern Sudan's rebels signed a peace pact in 2005 that ended more than two decades of civil war that killed 2 million people.

Since then, the southern government and Arab-dominated north have struggled to implement power- and wealth-sharing protocols.

Like the former southern rebels, insurgents in Darfur who have battled Bashir's administration since 2003 accuse the central government of neglect and marginalization.

International experts say at least 200,000 people have died there and another 2.5 million been driven from their homes.

12 comments:

Wadi'The Zima' said...

Justice demands that we add George Bush, Blair et al to the Indictment and issue an Arrest Warrant yet on this matter the ICC is uniquely silent.....Are the Iraqi dead any less worthy of an ICC response? Are we to understand that 3000 Deaths in the US galvanizes the ICC, 35000 Dead in Darfur moves the ICC to issue a Blizzard of Indictments and Arrest warrants, however, in the face of 600000 Iraqi Dead or the remorsless torture and torment of a nation(Palistinians)the ICC is deafeningly silent... I ask again is Arab Life without value or less worthy of Justice?
As Always 'The Zima'W3

#1 infidel said...

wow ! did George bush Invite 19 fucking islamic Douchebags to take over our fucking planes and kill 3000 innocent people "NO", did Tony blair Invite the bombings that ensued in his country , perpetuated by Islamic Radicalism "NO",
And where the hell do you people come up with 600,000 dead Iraqi's?
Oh did you mean how many Saddam killed in cold blood ?If you were to come to my home and KIll my family or a loved one of mine ,nothing would stop me from erasing your seed from the planet !The ICC has not indited Bush or Blair , because there is no crime !
The fucking Palistinians should Knock it the fuck off and Israel will stop killing them !
" An eye for an eye "
And until All muslims speak out against the Koran , mulehammed ,( may poop be upon him!)and the largely radical extremists, in their religion, yes their life has less value than mine and the only justice they deserve is a American bullet ! DONT FUCKING COME TO MY COUNTRY AND TALK SHIT , YOU WANT YOUR ISLAMIC WAY OF LIFE GO FUCKING HOME , MUSLIMS ARE THE ONES THAT ASKED FOR THIS , YOU DON'T LIKE US , YOU DON'T WANT OUR WESTERN WAYS !
STAY THE FUCK OUT OF AMERICA !

As Always #1infidel
the biggest ASSHOLE!
have a peachy day .

Wadi'The Zima' said...

HEY!
U BIGOTED Clown, let me just bring you up to speed with what for you will be some disturbing news and facts...
Firstly I am neither an Arab nor a Muslim but a commited and dedicated Humanist, to be precise a 'Universal Humanist'
Secondly, in case you are too dumb to have have noticed or understood, there was not a single Iraqi involved in the 9/11 outrage.
Thirdly the given rationale for invading the Sovereign state of Iraq was that it possesed'Weapons of Mass destruction', Which I gather is still been sought several years on.
Forthly, and this might come as an utter suprise to you bigoted 'Flat Earth Theoreticians'the slaughter of 500,ooo Iraqi's the torture in Abu Greb,Guantanamo,Redition etc etc constitute 'Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes'and as such those responsible (in case you are too stupid to 'get it' that means Bush Blair et al) must face Justice just as Bashir, Charles Taylor and any of the other Mass Murdering Despots who plague our World!!!
Let me assure you that no amount of fulminating or gibberish from your kind is going to change these facts.
Further more, it is because of 'Bigoted Idiots, like you that 'OUR WORLD' remains haunted by these 'Suited Psychopaths' or if you prefer 'Fascists in Suits' As Always I remain 'The Zima'W3

#1 infidel said...

Hey fuck wadi, for your information you useless piece of goat dung!
What the fuck is a universal humanist ? sounds like you are a little self serving ! you fuck stick !
again where has George bush and the great U.S.Military killed the now 500,000 Iraqi's ?

"however, in the face of 600000 Iraqi Dead"
you dipshit you don't even remember your own made up facts ,you fucking useless turd harvester!
Firstly , if you ,you blind , dumb and ignorant waste of human sperm,
if you think that these things you talk about(the slaughter of 500,ooo Iraqi's the torture in Abu Greb,Guantanamo,Redition etc etc)
(nice spelling by the way ,retard)
then certainly you must see the slaughter of "3000" innocent
Americans by a "bigoted , backwards ass ,upside down ,Stoneage ,dirt floor loving ,goat herding , (and fucking),bunch of low life scumbags!" was a "crime Against Humanity "
No matter what you ,backwards ass "universal humanist (Hippie) type of people want to say,
These Douchbags brought it upon themselves.
They declared the war by their "deeds" ,Iraq ? all part of it (in the long run )Saddam , could have stopped it by listening to the international community! But he did not , He ( like so many Muslims) taunt and lie and taunt some more and threaten , you no brained piece of shit , wake the fuck up , Their is genocide being committed everyday , In the Name of Allah(poop be upon him) and asswipes like you and your fagot "Kosbats"Butt buddies wont say a fucking thing about it !
It's all George bush this George bush that , it is you fulminating , all the fucking time !
Again , saddam killed well over a million people, he was a bad guy ,
He did have weapons of mass destruction , Douchebags like you don't want to admit it no matter what the evidence (burnt up and blown up "mobile chemical weapons labs" , cache's of mustard gas,countless "empty" containers of other types of Chemical weapons ,Oh , and lets not forget the "hundreds of aluminum tubes that went to the hundreds of centrifuges,that also had the hundreds of Magnets you need to enrich uranium!" oh yeah all tell tale signs of "not having weapons of mass destruction!
yeah I know ,I'm pretty stupid ,I don,t know anything ,Call me a bigot ,fine ,only to a Ideology of hate and murder!Islam !,Don't fuck with my country we wont come kill you in yours,A simple truth and motto to live by!
If you don't like it and you live here , I will most certainly buy you a one way ticket to Any piece of shit country you want ,I GUARANTEE IT! get the fuck out ,
If you don't live here , Kiss my American Loving Ass!!!!!!
as always the #1 ASSHOLE!

p.s.
for your info I am an Atheist ! I do not subscribe to
Any "Ideology"

Wadi'The Zima' said...

Hey!Atheist
You have at last got to a position where you are now capable of formulating a question 'Welcome to the 'Human Race'. This you will be pleased to know is the first step to at least a modicum of wisdom. There is possibly some hope for you yet.
I presume you have had a somewhat limited education, an education which did not include or extend to words like 'Humanism and Universal'...Not to worry, we are patient bunch.
As lesson one (1) I intend to disabuse of some of your more intellectually and philosophically bizarre notions.
Let's open with the somewhat garbled and confused claim by you that you are an ‘Atheist' yet do not 'subscribe' to any Ideology', Well let me bring you a definitional surprise 'Atheism is an Ideology!!!You might do well to reflect on what that says about you.
Turning now to your hysterical response, I know that the 'truth hurts’ so I will endeavor to package it in as simple and gentle a manner as possible so here goes, The issue here is 'Crime against Humanity and War Crimes’ and in this context 9/11, the illegal invasion of Iraq, the hecatomb of civilian corpses, etc are indubitably Crimes against Humanity and War Crimes'...Which rather neatly brings me to what for you may well be a 'Strange Term' JUSTICE, the world today demands JUSTICE and to that end all those responsible must and will be brought to face JUSTICE. The wanton destruction of Human life is no longer acceptable. The World is no longer prepared to accept the barbarism and brutality that has and is been visited on our kind and our planet!!!
In this profound reconfiguring of our reality neither 'Bush, Blair nor the Charles Taylors and Bashir's of this World are exempt or beyond the reach of JUSTICE!!!
In closing this first lesson let me clarify a couple of things for you, the concept of an 'eye for an eye' will soon reduce us to a world of the blind!!! Secondly I am not a 'Hippie Type' I am a member of the 'Humanist Revolution' dedicated to fashioning 'A Humane, Human Centered and Human Sensitive Civilization' in which even misguided people like you will find a place.
As Always 'the Zima'W3

Ps Thanks for the offer of a ticket I suggest you use it, travel the World, and open your eyes, mind and Learn W3

#1 infidel said...

O.k. wadi ,even if I only graduated high school, does that mean that I'm dumb, I would think not ,but I guess you being so smart ! makes you a better Person than I am? some call it arrogant !elitist!
uh lesson" 1" , answer the fucking questions, when in a debate you should answer the questions! you have failed to do so!
Your "pussy liberal" views are what started this crap ,turning a blind eye to " terrorist's " was not a good decision by Bill clinton and the Democratic party!
Humanism ?,your talking To somebody who believes in Leaving everyone alone ! I don't believe in Any of your religions ,Your religions are the root and cause of 99% of all problems in the world ,Atheism ,may be Kind of an Ideology ? but from my point of view , it's one that leaves people to their own devices!(using your own mind , living your own life, leaving people Alone as in not killing them ,and not coming to a country and killing innocent people ) Al qaida are not innocent people they are the ones that decided to come here and kill us first! should we not retaliate ?
don't call me "inhuman because I believe in an eye for an Eye"
turning your back on a group of people that subscribes to an Ideology of hate, domination of the human will,murder , Honor killings, etc,and have a sworn duty through their bible "the koran"to kill or convert all non muslims ! is cause for death !
If you do not believe that 9/11 was a crime against humanity, there is no changing your mind!your as blind as can be !
but at least remember that we as a country did not start this ! but we will finish it ! If that means killing a lot of bad guy's that have sworn to kill us !So be it !
Islam is the most inhumane thing on the planet and loon's like you won't say squat against it !
you are the one who needs to open your eye's for you are blind because of your beliefs !
And you are right about one thing, the World is tired of the brutality And barbarism committed everyday , that's why we are fighting back!
P.S.
I will never travel outside the U.S., not because of fear ! because their is no greater country to be ! That's why everyone wants to come here !
FREEDOM !

Wadi'The Zima' said...

Do your 'self' a favour and read my comments again and this time try to understand what you are reading
As Always'The Zima'W3

#1 infidel said...

Hey WACHUKU VIDAL WADIIKE-WILLIAMS,
sounds to me like you are of the mindset that you can take over a portion of the world ?and force your will upon everyone that comes through it ! that's a good way to be humane!

Firstly, our union brings into being a ‘Nation of the Willing’ numbering a billion plus people.Under our control comes a huge porportion of the worlds Stratigic Raw materials ranging from, 90% of the worlds Cobalt,to Uranium, Oil, Iron ore etc etc….Weave into this the fact that this emerging nation will also effectively control the arteries of global trade-The Cape and the Suez and command the Atlantic and Indian Oceans and we begin to get a feel for both the significance and extent to which our union will reorder the world!!!
WACHUKU VIDAL WADIIKE-WILLIAMS Says:
July 14, 2008 at 2:50 pm

sound familiar douchbag ?
if you are going to come to my site at least be honest !
Africa is a fucked up place you people are so behind the times it is unbelievable! you and your People are constantly slaughtering
hundreds of thousands of Innocents!
every year!
I see your point , on a few
things, but to call yourself a humanist and to make statements like this,
Sarkozy’s Med-Union is an obvious and blatant attempt to fracture the ‘Organic Union’which is emerging from the ‘Blood Tears and ashes’of Colonialism…It is no exageration to say that the Union of We Africans and Arabs represents the final chapter in this long and arduous process of decolonialization and the reconquest of our Destiny.
We Africans and Arabs? sounds like you are suggesting a bit of a tift not unlike what Al qaida and the Toweliban try to do !
for you to suggest that Bush and Blair are war criminals , For defending the U.S. and then subscribe to a belief that YOU are going to Change things by taking control of a large part of the world, you sir are no better than Osama bin Laden himself , you are no humanist you are Toad who wants to dominate much like the muslims.
As always the #1ASSHOLE

Wadi'The Zima' said...

Our union brings into being a ‘Nation of the Willing’


You really must concentrate and perhaps even learn a little more.
Here is Lesson number (2)
The term 'Nation of the willing' means exactly what it say, it does not mean a nation of people Ruled by a single Individual (Monarchy/Autocracy) or a Plutocracy (Ruled by the Rich/Wealthy) nor does it mean a nation compelled or terrorized into obedience and conformity. The Nation of the willing means 'We who are 'Willing' to embark on this arduous quest to Transform our Reality and fashion a truly 'Human, Humane, Human Centered and Human Sensitive New Civilization'!!!
Secondly, The African Union' (AU) is an organization of the 53 states that together constitute the African Continent from 'Cape to Cairo from Mombassa to Lagos and the surrounding Islands who have 'Willingly' come together to form the said 'Union’. You will I am sure be pleased to know that it is not a product of the 'Genocide of the Indigenous population' because, we are the indigenous population, it is not the product of or built on the 'Blood Sweat and Tears' of Slaves and Slavery but a Union of the Willing!!!
Thirdly, a brief lesson in Geography and indeed Human Geography. The geo-political entity that is the 'African Union' AU is the domicile of between 850-900 Million People, made up of a myriad of races and cultures including Arabs -Egypt, Libya, Tunisia Algeria-All members of the AU African Union. Countries which have a predominantly Arab population. Let me repeat this in case you did not 'get it' the first time round, Given 'The ‘Organic Union’ which is emerging from the ‘Blood Tears and ashes’ of Colonialism…It is no exaggeration to say that the Union of We Africans and Arabs represents the final chapter in this long and arduous process of decolonization and the re-conquest of our Destiny’.
In case you haven’t noticed, we do not have a phobia about Arabs nor do we have any wish or intention of, to quote you, 'erasing (their) seed from the planet'! Further, me and mine are as implacably opposed to Al Qaeda as we are opposed to American barbarism and War Crimes in Iraq; we want 'Neither’, as a component of the 'New Africa' we are endeavoring to build. And for the record, we are vehemently opposed to the perpetrators of 'War Crimes’ or 'Crimes against Humanity' be they Al Qaeda, Bush, Blair, The Taliban, Bashir, Charles Taylor or whom ever.
At the risk of being patronizing let me say that you really need to get up to speed on this crucial fact and distinction. I/We are NOT Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindu's, Buddhists, Atheists etc, I/We are 'Universal Humanists’ and all that this implies and as such we do not fit into any of the above boxes, We represent a New and Transformative voice 'For and Of Our Time'!
Fourthly, you seem to be particularly exercised by the fact that we Africans now intend to take control of our Resources, both Human and Material. A rather curious position for you to take while ferociously claiming the same rights for your people and lands, after all it was barely a couple of days ago, when you thought I was an American, that you were offering me a ticket to leave your country because I posed some imagined threat to the USA. Today, your hostility is directed at the fact that 'We Africans' are engaged in finally taking command of our Destiny!!! Well my friend, get use to the’ New Reality' that is unfolding before our Eyes. The Days when Africa and we Africans are the play ground and play thing of all and sundry is rapidly coming to a close!!!
We are acutely aware of the poverty, suffering, corrupt practices, the anguish filled nature of our recent history and it is precisely because of the ‘Reality of our condition' that we are resolved to rectify and repair the damage of histories folly!!!
Fifthly, a brief word about my politics, for me and mine 'Universal Humanism' in Social and Political terms translates into Pantisocracy and Isocracy. Which makes me an Isocrat' and a 'Pantisocrat'. You might do well to add these terms to your 'Political Lexicon', and deepen your understanding of what I am saying and what is unfolding in our time.
Finally, a word of advice, your taste for a deluge of coarse insults does you no favours in fact does you a disservice.
As Always 'The Zima'W3

#1 infidel said...

Wadii,
When you use Phrases like,

"Under our control comes a huge porportion of the worlds Stratigic Raw materials ranging from, 90% of the worlds Cobalt,to Uranium, Oil, Iron ore etc etc….Weave into this the fact that this emerging nation will also effectively control the arteries of global trade-The Cape and the Suez and command the Atlantic and Indian Oceans and we begin to get a feel for both the significance and extent to which our union will reorder the world!! "

Under our control,also ,effectivley control the Arteries,
and , Command the Atlantic and Indian Oceans, and , Extent to which our union will REORDER the world !

you sound Quite a Bit like someone who thinks they are entitled to more than their share of the world , therefore Exactly like an Islamic Extremist ,(AL Qaida)This is their belief and it parallels your views !
I understand that your people Have suffered under British Colonization , I do not agree with the British point of view !
you should be entitled to your land ! but not a Large majority of the world !
I do not fear you, or your views ,nor do I fear any Muslim, I do not think you are a threat to the U.S. , What you failed to understand is that I was offering what I thought was an American/or someone in America that was not Happy with things here ! therefore the offer to help you leave!
I have offered this to many people , even some "African Americans that believe I am responsible for Slavery" not my fault !I ask them if they want to go back to the Motherland , Seeing as how that a lot of African's kill their own ( Just like
Muslims ) For a number of reasons !
Their reply "no"!
This offer still stands to any one living here that is unhappy and wants to bitch about the way things are ! they can get the fuck out and I will help them! America is still the greatest and "freeist "Country in the world , that is why so many come here ! including Africans!
Obviously you take my "anger " as Fear , I get Angered when I here How Muslims want to Kill and or Convert all Infidel's ! A lot of their Rhetoric , sounds like you Talking ! your "new" way of things is a Fantasy , there is no utopian society , It is a nice thought but , unreachable , much like a world without war! A fantasy , if it's not the u.s. fighting someone it's somebody else , on this I do agree with you ! but when a country is Attacked , like the U.S. on 9/11 , we hold the right as a sovereign country to fight back , with whomever and wherever ! Al qaida , does not have a country ! they do not have a uniform , we will (and are )hunt them down and kill them ! If this was done to your country , I would expect you would do the same ? and if the people who did it came from here ! I would help turn them in and flush them out ! Unlike your people did and a large majority of the world ! We do not care if you or your people do not like us! I do not live for you !you do not live for me !The U.S. has done more Monetarily , And Humanitarily , for people around the world Including Africa , Than anyone else ever has or will ! And still everyone Shits on us! But ! we still do it ! so bark up another tree ! but thank you for Your Lessons , I think like you I am more Arrogant for it !!!!

As always the #1 ASSHOLE

Wadi'The Zima' said...

Hey!!!
You really must read my stuff more closely the 'WE/OUR' I refer to in my comments are 'WE' the 850-900 Million inhabitants of the Continent of AFRICA.’ Our' Lands refers to the Land we inhabit from 'Cape to Cairo'. The recourses are those that exist therein and the Geo-Political reality is that the 'African continent is boarded on the West by the Atlantic and on the East by the Indian Ocean, further, the main artery of global Trade goes through the CAPE and SUEZ these are the objective facts!!!
We, the 850-900 million of us Africans are not taking more than our share of anything... We are simply taking command and control of 'OUR' Human and Natural Recourses with the intention of deploying them for and in the interest of our population. Just as the rest of the World is doing from China to India from Europe to the USA. A prerequisite of and for development is command and control of both human and natural recourses and that is what we Africans now propose to do.
I am somewhat concerned by your concept of 'Freedom' on one hand you claim that the USA is the '"freest "Country in the world' yet you are quick to dispatch/Deport any one who dares to criticize the USA, My understanding of 'Freedom' includes freedom of thought and speech, that to me is what makes for a vibrant and creative Society!!! After all as wonderful as you think the USA is it must give you pause for thought that the USA has one of the highest per capita prison population in the world, that in some areas infant mortality rate is higher and Life expectancy is lower than some countries in the so called 'Third world' or that you do not have 'Universal Health Care' etc surely your citizens must be able to raise these issues and criticize these failings without running the risk of a one way ticket to elsewhere.
And now to what you refer to as my fantasy it was but a couple of centuries ago when the world was in the grip of the notion of the Divine rights of kings that that was in conformity with gods will!! Humanity we were been told was created so and that it was a godless delusion and fantasy to even posit the notion of a nation without a Monarch... Now we hear the constant refrain that, it is a fantasy to strive for a 'Humane, Human Centered, Human sensitive civilization' in which we do have an equal and equitable distribution of 'Power' in which gender equality is a fact and not an aspiration. Suffice to say we intend to march on towards what we consider our 'rendezvous with Destiny'.
I want to briefly return to this Al Qaeda issue I am not a Pacifist I am of the view that we all have a right to defend and protect our life and nation my gripe and rage is the Slaughter of civilians and the innocent whether it be by Al Quesada or the American Military whether it be by Saddam or George Bush, whether it be Bashir or Blair!!! A crime against Humanity is a crime against Humanity irrespective of who commits it; A War Crime is A War Crime Is a War Crime!!! And those responsible must be made to answer to justice!!!
And so finally #1 Infidel aka Asshole I bid you fair well, I hope our conversation continues Saluda!!!
As always 'The Zima'W3

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